Norco LT 6.1 2010 – Review

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GUEST REVIEWER

Lee here with a quick word on this.  I thought it would be a good thing to add some comments from a “guest reviewer” who’s had time on other bikes, rides differently than myself and could add his/her impressions.

About Tyler Wilkes

I am 160 lbs.  I ride uphill & downhill.  I’m more aggressive descending than Lee and will huck 20 feet to sketchy landings on demand for Lee’s photography enjoyment! I split my riding about 50/50 between shuttling with the DH bike and riding all-mountain/ XC trails. Although I’m only 23 I’ve been riding for 11 years.  Born and bred in Surrey I ride the Shore, Whistler, Squamish, Pemberton and have also gone on trips to the BC Interior, Canadian Rockies, Chilcotins & Idaho.   My current ride is a Banshee Rune and a Specialized Demo 9.

Downhill:
This was the best handling bike I have ever ridden. It was very responsive to rider input and behaved exactly as expected when cornering or riding technical sections. The Lyrik fork was plush, stiff and felt very appropriate for the style of bike. Though simply designed, the rear suspension was very “tight” and predictable. For a rider such as myself, who spends the majority of my time riding the North Shore and other BC trails, this seems like a single bike that I could own and be happy with for 90% of my riding. On some smooth and fast trails in the BC interior, the bike still handled extremely well. The only weakness I noticed is that the longer feeling cockpit was not ideal for small jumps and drops when compared to other more downhill oriented all-mountain rides, such as the Banshee Rune or Rocky Slayer.

Uphill:

The Fluid LT 6.1 was a superb climber on all types of climbs. It climbed through a very rocky and rooty trail very easily and handled well on tight corners. The rear tire was glued to the trail and the rear suspension was perfectly active to maintain traction without robbing power and energy. It also performed well on smoother climbs and with the front fork travel reduced, the geometry is ideal for long climbs. With previous versions of the Fluid that I have tested, I noticed a slight bobbing issue; however, the 2010 edition did not seem to have a problem possibly due to the Monarch rear shock. Overall, the Fluid LT 6.1 was an excellent all-mountain climbing machine.

Overall:

The Fluid is a fantastic bike for most riders out there who want to own a single bike that can handle almost any trail. For the trails of British Columbia, I am confident that I could throw the Fluid LT 6.1 on the bike rack, travel to the nearest riding town and comfortably ride 80% of the trails out there. The only downsides are a few of the specs, such as the Truvativ Hammerschmidt crankset and the Joplin seat post.  The Hammerschmidt is a good idea in principal, but in practice it robs power due to friction in the big ring. Especially when considering the price of the crankset, the cons far outweigh the pros. The additional cost of the Hammerschmidt could be used to improve some of the other specs of the bike. In addition, for the average all-mountain rider, the on-the-fly adjustable seat post was not necessary. With those two issues aside, the Fluid LT 6.1 is one of the best all-mountain rides on the market.

Pros:
-Excellent climbing performance
-Very responsive feeling bike that handles very well. The bike is limited only by the skills of the rider
-great all around bike for “all-mountain” trails
-Simple and attractive colours

Cons:
-Cockpit length and head angle feel more oriented to climbing than descending steep trails or doing jumps/drops
-Truvativ Hammerschmidt crankset has lots of friction in big ring. It’s not worth the money for most riders in most situations
-Some components of the bike could be upgraded if the expensive crankset and seat post were omitted (eg. XO derailleurs/shifters)


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About the author: Lee Lau

Lee Lau calls North Vancouver and Whistler BC home. He's had over 15 years experience riding bikes mainly in western North America and in Europe. Unlike many people who learned to ride bikes on North Shore trails, he actually enjoys riding (and sometimes bushwhacking) uphill.


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  • DB says:

    Lee…I have seen several of your Fluid reviews in the past, most of them are pretty good. I cant help but notice though that you LOVE taking photos of yourself going over “steep” rocks and getting wwwaaaaaaaaaayyyy back over the back tire. I suspect you are really good at steeps, but your exaggerated body position gives me a chuckle…

    Keep up the good work!

  • LeeL says:

    Darn you’re right … I think I’ve been overusing that particular shot. Pretty easy to get in a rut. I have got to try another pose

  • Roger says:

    I can’t think of how the photos of you in your reviews are fundamentally different from those in any given mountain bike magazine either in print or online.

  • LeeL says:

    Roger – they’re a bit overdone in terms of leaning back. DB must have seen some of my past shots (all taken by my wife) – obviously so as I can’t take pictures of myself. The easiest photos of her to take of me are the one’s where I’m going slow creeping down rock faces (faster shots require a bit more camera work & I wasn’t happy with the shots I was getting). To make a long story short, the better shots of me in downhill mode on many bikes were the slow shots where I’m crawling down steep rock faces. It’s a bit overdone & I’ll have to think of ways to get different pictures. It’s nice to have good eye-candy for the reviews. What I’m thinking of doing is to take pictures of somebody else on the bike so I can get different angles and pictures than the rather overdone steep rock face shots.

  • Roy says:

    I can’t find the specs re: the Joplin – is it the 3 or 4? If the former have you ridden the 4 at all – supposed to be improved over the 3.

    Great review – I hate having to wait for your reviews to come out but that’s probably what makes them so good – the time you spend properly getting acquinted with the bike!

  • leel says:

    Roy – thanks for the catch. I forgot to clarify and edited my comment about the Joplin.

    I haven’t tried the Joplin 4 yet. I hope they’ve improved it because there’s a LOT of room for improvement

    “Every all-mountain bike should have an adjustable seatpost. I’m now a convert. However, this is my second bike with a Joplin and there’s still room for improvement. The Crank Bros seatpost is the Joplin 3 (the purportedly improved Joplin 4 wasn’t realized when OE spec was finalized). The Joplin 3 has a single allen bolt head will that will move around if you smack it hard with your butt. Additionally, the seatpost won’t rise all the way up to its maximum when triggered – a problem familiar to many frustrated Joplin owners. It’s too bad such an expensive item performs so poorly.”

  • leel says:

    Runaway Train – Whistler May 23, 2010. New section of trail built after the S2S improvements took out some old singletrack – in keeping with Whistler’s \no net loss\ policy

    Video here – I was riding the LT 6.1 and filming
    http://vimeo.com/12054388

  • Man says:

    been riding mine for 2 months… riding is veeerrryyyy nice

    nice review i’ve been thinking the same for almost everything.
    your lucky to be 160 :P , i’m 250 so the bike components are almost already done… Bottom bracket is already givin’ up … rear hub is loose and can’t be tighten, gear train is used.. but the overall feeling is pretty nice.

    for those who buy rock shox forks … be sure to chek oil level before using … the dont put so much of it into the fork…

    hammerscmith rocks … never gonna put a front derailleur on a bike anymore

    good job lee

  • LeeL says:

    Updated comment on the stock Schwalbe Nobby Nic tires

    In the 2.2 size, its a poor braking and cornering front tire. Poor traction rear tire. Suboptimal in wet, adequate in dry but nothing special. About as disappointing a set or tires as I’ve ever had the misfortune of trying.

  • Jason says:

    Thanks for the review on the Norco LT 6.1.
    I’m thinking of buying one under half price, due to the new model arriving.

    Was hoping for a little more overview of the bike but instead has to read through pages of people whinging about whether your sponsored or not…..arr.

    would like to know if you would actually buy one or not….considering the price!

  • LeeL says:

    Jason,

    I’d take a serious look also at the LT 6.2 considering that its lighter and cheaper. You’d be missing the Hammerschmidt and the Joplin. I like the Hammerschmidt buuuut do you really, really need it? The Joplin is terrible – finnicky, a maintenance hassle and a boat-anchor. For that price and money one would hope to get an adjustable seatpost that actually reliably works

  • Jason says:

    leel,
    Thanks for your feedback. Sounds as though the norco range may not suit Australian turf. Have heard alot of negative reviews as I’ve gone deeper into studying the Norco range.
    Have you heard of the Giant Antham x3 2010, Looked at it yesterday and that seems to be a lighter, tougher and overall better bike?

  • LeeL says:

    Jason,

    They’re totally different bikes. The Anthem is a light XC bike. The LT is a long-travel bike that is intended for some light downhill/freeride and uphill pedalling use. What type of negative reviews? The Anthem is lighter but will be considerably more fragile, have worse specifications but will be cheaper no doubt.

  • Jason says:

    leel,

    Yeah did read that riders of the Anthem had to change components like brakes, cranks etc in order to ride the bike harder as the basic parts didn’t handle it.

    On a couple of US bike sites they seemed to give the Norco a hard time saying it was heavy,clumsy and not worth a cent.

    I would just like to know whether you would RIDE the LT or in fact BUY the LT 6.1 being the experienced rider!?????

    I’m just at a junction at the moment with what bike to go. I did like the Norco.

  • Lee Lau says:

    Jason,

    Like I said (sorry not to sound like I’m lecturing) they’re totally different bikes. They have pretty different frame angles. The Norco’s head tube angle is 68; the Giant is 71. Even on the websites the Norco is described as an all-mountain bike with freeride pretensions. The Anthem is a XC bike. No amount of component – swapping will change this basic premise. YOU have to define your needs (I have no idea if you ride on technical trails, or flat smooth trails with sharp up and downs, or downhill with some climbs). I have no idea what type of rider you are.

    With all due respect to other reviews and comments – if those other US bike sites (you didn’t give me a reference so I have to go on your description) say the bike is “heavy, clumsy and not worth a cent [sic}” I have to question the context of their reviews. Mainly on what trails are they being used. If its smooth fast trails then the LT is overkill and those other reviewers would be better served with a xc-type of bike

    Frankly, and I mean this with all due respect, I think you have to do a lot more reading or perhaps talk to a bike shop as you are asking about two bikes which are totally different. It’s tough to compare apples to oranges.

    I know all this is confusing but perhaps read some of the What bike to Buy threads in the forums which are very useful

  • Lee Lau says:

    Jason – sorry I forgot to answer the question

    “I would just like to know whether you would RIDE the LT or in fact BUY the LT 6.1 being the experienced rider!?????”

    YES. Absolutely.

  • Jason says:

    Leel,
    Yeah you are correct when it comes to picking the right bike. I guess I ‘m looking for a bike with a ‘jack of all trades’ use. I want a bike that I can ride on smooth flat tracks but then be able to challange the bike when going down more heavier terrain. I have spoken to bike shops and read up alot of info on the internet, they seem to tell me what I want to hear in order to sell a bike.

    I felt the Norco was a bike that maybe would ‘grow’ with my experience without having to continue upgrading every year. But also be a fun light bike that I could just simply enjoy.

  • brodiegrrl says:

    Hi Jason,

    If want to buy a norco, you might want to consider the regular Fluid, not the LT. Or the Giant Reign if you want a more all round bike.

    The Anthem is more XC, Fluid LT more DH oriented side of all mountain.

  • Jason says:

    Thanks for that. That is what I needed, a nice simple answer that tells me straight.

    I’m am thinking the Giant xc which I think will suit my needs.

  • Mike says:

    ever have issues with the rear derailer hanger bracket braking? I have gone through three, and I’m not out thrashing on my bike. I even ride in gear three up front and at least 5 or 6 in the back. What’s up with this…I hate having to walk down hill!

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