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You might want to try a small air can for your rp 23 before swapping out to a new dhx, if you do let us know how it rides, should give you the bottom out resistance your looking for. It was nice to hear the remedy was so capable on the big stuff.
On Spencer’s note -
I’ve had about 5 friends give up the DHX air this year do to not being able to set the bottom out correctly. Try modding the RP23 some how or check out a Roco WC Air before the DHX Air.
Great review and great looking bike. What pack is that on your back?
Great review. It sure sounds like an impressive rig. Hope they come down under soon as I would like to take one for a test ride.
P.S. Keith – the bag he’s wearing is either a Dakine Nomad, or Dakine Apex. Dakine make awesome MTB-specific hydration packs.
29 lbs for a $5k XC bike?! pass.
Hey Roger, it’s not an XC bike, it’s an all – mountain bike. How about reading the review 1st… And 29 lbs for a bike with 6 inches of travel front and back is very light.
29lb All Mountain with average parts and not carbon for 4.8k? Keep looking, much better bikes out there….
29 pounds seems fine. My all mountain candondale prophet is only a bit lighter. i don’t think i want to take it off some of the jumps he did though.
Everyone that is saying 29 lbs. for $$$ pass…please look at the specs again. This is a 6″ travel bike…not a 5 or 4 inch. Sub 30 lbs for a longer travel bike is light…not heavy. My 6″ bike weighs 37 lbs. and most others I have ridden in this segment are in the 32 lbs. range.
I haven’t ridden one of these yet, so I will reserve judgment.
Problem is for that $$ you should get better components, and yeah older 6″ bikes 29 lbs is pretty light…but bikes are getting lighter and stronger in this travel range…it isnt heavy or light, but not worth the $$ anyways
Can you guys suggest a bike that is 6 inch travel and sub 29 lbs that has a better part spec for $4,729 MSRP? I’m having a hard time coming up with one.
Hitting the jumps and drops in the video, ride after ride, year after year on anything *less* than a 14kg (29lb) bike would be inevitably eventually asking for a stay in hospital.
There’s been no major breakthroughs in the strength of alloys for years, lighter bikes = less material, that’s all there is to it. Unfotunately you have to choose your poison when it comes to metal; lightweight or strength. There’s infinite variations between the two, but you can’t have the maximum of both, this bike is actually pretty light for a AM bike.
My 6″ AM BMC weighs in at 16kgs (32lbs).
5k for 29 lbs is so so. 5k better come with better parts. PASS
Have any of you morons complaining about the weight or th price actually read the review, understood the advances in bike technology or even (at the very least) watched the goddamn video?!? This ISN’T an XC bike. It’s an INCREDIBLY capable all mountain machine that will do 90% of riders as their sole bike. It will be intersting to see how it stacks up against the Intense 6.6 or Nicolai Helius.
I think for the price and the intended use it should come with a 36 Talas not a float.If your going to climb then getting that slack front end down would really help.
07 Santa Cruz Nomad-$5500-XT shifters, deraileurs, brakes, King Hubs, Fox Talas 36 Fork, DT 5.1D rims, Kenda Nevegal 2.35 DTC tires, Race Face Atlas crank w/RF bashguard, Crank Brothers Joplin L Seatpost, WTB laser V saddle, Salsa locking grips, FSA Gravity stem and handlebar. Weighs every bit of 32 pounds. I wish the Trek had been available when I ordered my Nomad. I love my Nomad, but the same travel for less money and less weight? I’ll take it.
Beautiful rig, nice geometry altho a little slack on the headtube. Weight is decent (lighter than my hardtail) and sounds like it has pretty decent ride characteristics. But 5 grand would buy 5 bikes like the one I abuse every day.
Cheese and Rice! Enough about the price and weight. I bought one a few months ago and just decided to check out what others thought and wanted to note that the 09′ version is about $1200 MSRP more than this one and yes it comes with an XTR crank but other than that, forget it, the price is more than par with competition. You know Trek is going to spec Bontrager all over. Doesn’t the Big S do that too. Actually, I the spec items were good except the stem. Did not fit my ride style I was used to and added the enough flex for me to dump it ASAP for a FR stem. Kudos for Fox making a fork and shock that you can adjust by turning it by just a mm and feeling the feedback immediately. All the ABP, E2, full floater and crap? All I know is that it has done everything that I wanted this bike to do which is be lighter than my Heckler but maintain the same, if not more, amount of travel and deliver the same suspension as my Progressive 5th. Trek has succeeded in that, famously. Yeh, I get all kinds of comments on the frame sex but with the infinete adjustments I can make for each riding course to the travel to the increased speed to the stiffness up front I would not have spent my dime on anything else. Two wrongs that Trek did make in my opinion that are just that, my opinion. Should have swapped the paint scheme with the Remedy 8. $4K on a bike and I get pearl white and that orange is damn sexy. Cmon! The tires were spec’d as Bontrager Jones and I got some bullcrap Maxxis rejects that after the first ride I had to swap out for my own personal safety with my current treds off of my Heckler (Kenda Nevagal 2.35). Much better since I did that and still are trying to determine what stem to put on. Will have to look into the Point one I guess.
I’ve never even ridden a bike, but I think this review is BS. I heard other stuff is better and I absolutely refuse to give anything a try that isn’t “cool.” Who does the company that were talking about think they are asking for my money for some crap product that I don’t even know what its all about?! Jerks.
But seriously, I’ve ridden pretty much everything out there, and so far the Remedy is the closest thing to a “do everything” bike that I’ve ever encountered. I ride/race DH, but am always down for an XC loop on my big bike. If I were going to buy a bike to “do everything on” from XC, to DH, to DS/4x, to DJ, it would be this bike. Its a great bike. I too used to hate bontrager stuff, but look at it this way: its just as light as the competitors, but if something goes wrong with it you have a way better warranty. 5 year warranty on an AM wheelset? Are you kidding me? Sign me up! For those of you complaining about 29 lbs, lets see some pictures of some 8 foot drops (real ones, like the one in the video) – not trying to be a dick here, but you can’t build a bike much lighter and have it be able to handle that.
Great review Justin
I have had mine (08 Remedy 9) for a month now. It’s opened up a whole new world for me. It climbs as fast as my Rush, but I have a big ‘ol shit eatin grin on while descending. Sold.
Took this bike to the French Alps last summer, it was so nice not to have to rent an abused monster out there for a change. Coped with everything and nothing broke during a ten day trip, did all the DH runs in the Portes du Soleil area and still brought it home in one piece to ride the XC trails in my own back yard! You can’t knock that, it’s even coping with a crappy British winter right now – still rides as good as the day I bought it!
29 lbs is light for any mountain bike with suspension, especially 6″ travel. Comparable bikes like the Nomad, Reign, Enduro SL are not this light stock. You weight weenies need to empty your pack, take a dump, and grow a pair. This thing is far from an XC bike, the Trek Fuel is what you’re looking for. Go buy NWD 9 and look at what Cam McCaul is doing on this thing, and then try to claim it should be lighter. Sure $5K is spendy, but it’s Trek, what do you expect?
Video is pretty weak, so is the drop! He was MOVING through the rock section though…
I really like the idea of a single bike that I can jump on and ride anywhere with confidence. It’s a noble principle, but for almost twenty or so years it just hasn’t been realistic. As mountain biking took off and some thought was put into frame design & suspension, an ever widening gap developed between bikes you could ride fast uphill. Or downhill. Not both.
Then I got on a Remedy and that all changed. This is the bike I had been waiting for… Now I’m towards the older end of the age bracket in my riding group, in fact I am the “old” age bracket. But I’m jumping the Remedy further than most of the younger guys are jumping their DH behemoths, and attacking on climbs. But that’s not what really makes the Remedy so good. For mine, what separates this bike is the way it has re-ignited my passion for riding.
I’ll go out for a couple of hours training by myself where before I’d easily slack off if I couldn’t find a riding partner. I work harder everywhere because of this bike. It inspires confidence, and repays it with results. And because I’m so amped to get out there and work I’m faster both uphill and down.
Seems there’s a lot of people who rag on this bike because of the name on the down tube. But if they were to put those prejudices aside and go out and spend a day on this bike – without any branding on it at all – I believe they’d be singing its praises too. Sure, you can quibble about tires or whatever, but these are all changeable. When I buy a bike, I’m buying the best frame I can get in the knowledge that even if there’s some component I hate, I’m probably going to have to replace it at some point anyway.
And best of all, I only paid USD $2000 for a pristine ’08 Remedy 9.
I’ve been starring at this bike for the past year and I finally picked up a 2009 Remedy 9 frame for cheap! I’ve now consolidated two bikes (one XC and one AM) into this bike. All I can say is WOW! I’ve been actively riding mountain bikes since ’93 and these latest designs are amazing. I’m riding better than ever. I can definitely notice the ABP and Full Floater difference. I can climb better and still rip the DH. I’m now a believer in the “one bike for everything” mindset. If you can pick one up, I highly recommend it!
Looks good and I welcome the direction from Trek but lets be honest, its overpriced with those components. Hell the bike tester said the same thing. You can build up a Banshee Rune, Trans Covert, or a Devinci Hectik for $1k less with better components. They wont be as light, but they probably wont break either.
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